So i just downloaded a collection of manson albums, and I'm intrigued. What breed's heaviness and hardcoreness in music is usually the combination of harmony and distortion. More instruments, more interference, more heaviness. But in Manson's music you hear something a bit different...the distortion's there for sure, but it lacks the harmony I'm used to in music. The bass is far separated and distinguished from the lead, and the lead is...in effect it's own accompaniment. Just the way the music is constructed is odd. Particularly the track Lunchbox on "Portrait of an American Family" is super hardcore...but completely unharmonized in the traditional sense. You have a flat distorted guitar carrying everything, matched with some flat distorted synths, well mixed drums with a super deep kick, and a very distinguished and individual bassline, though its not too loud. There's some samples in there, yeah, but aside from the lyrics, that's about all there is in the song...it's really cool to see how simple music can be super hardcore...

Some people would attribute this sound to manson himself in all his glorious individuality, some to trent reznor in his endless guidance...but the truth is, its twiggy whose responsible for manson's awesome sound. Twiggy is the man, and a master musician/sound engineer/mixing guy.